Podcasts

Engage with us in this auditory exploration to understand the interconnectedness of all life and the potential for a transformative shift in how we perceive and interact with our world.

Podcasts

Engage with us in this auditory exploration to understand the interconnectedness of all life and the potential for a transformative shift in how we perceive and interact with our world.

Undercurrents

On our 3rd Space podcast platform, we highlight a diversity of first-principle perspectives, and alternative ways of being and doing. In a globalised world, we recognise the necessity for an ecology of knowledge systems and inclusive moral frameworks, through which to make sense of, and reconstitute our world. We explore these perspectives with creative thinkers, visionaries and culture hackers from around the world.

Exploring new horizons

Latest Episodes

How Language Binds and Frees Us – A Conversation with Kübra Gümüşay

26/04/2024
We were fortunate to meet Kübra Gümüşay at the Realisation Festival in the UK in 2023, as one of the Festival’s keynote speakers. We loved her presentation and managed to catch up with her in April 2024 to interview her for 3rd Space. Kübra is an award-winning author, journalist, and activist. She studied political science in Hamburg and at the London School of Oriental and African Studies. She has won awards for her writing and campaigns against racism and sexualised violence. She speaks on issues of social justice around the world and is involved in advocacy and feminist research for ‘utopian’ and ‘desirable futures’. Her book Speaking and Being was one of the most successful non-fiction books in Germany in 2020. She is also a Mercator Senior Fellow at Cambridge University.

Working with Young Refugees in a World that Doesn’t Make Sense – a conversation with Renate Keller

04/04/2024
Too often seen as mere statistics, the historical context for the dislocation and extreme trauma of young refugees, as well as their necessity for sanctuary and a liveable future, is often forgotten or ignored. Yet, we are the world, and it is a world where more and more refugees will be fleeing the results of war, climate change, and oppressive regimes. Based on her own work and life experience, Renate Keller brings a creative dimensionality and depth to teaching young refugees in Switzerland, and finds in their receptivity and desire to connect, a sensibility for the Heart. This is a rare and insightful glimpse into the challenges and inspiration of working intimately with refugees searching for a life in the West.

Radical Experiments in Unlearning with Manish Jain

23/12/2023
We interviewed Manish Jain at Shikshantar, The People’s Institute for Re-thinking Education and Development in the ancient city of Udaipur in India, which he co-founded. Manish is one of the leading planetary voices for deschooling our lives and reimagining education and development. He is deeply committed to regenerating our diverse local knowledge systems, cultural imagination and intercultural dialogue. Born in India, Manish worked in the US as an investment banker for Morgan Stanley, received a Master’s in Education at Harvard University, and worked as a principal team leader on UNESCO Learning Without Frontiers Global Initiative. He returned to India twenty-five years ago to look after his illiterate grandmother, which began a deep process of Un-learning. In the interview we talk about his discovery of the gift culture in India, its abundance versus scarcity culture, forgiveness, how working with your hands is not extracurricular, and the significance of cow dung.

A Rare Perspective from the Gaza War – In Conversation with Yael Treidel

22/10/2023
In the wake of the brutal attack by Hamas and the escalating violence in Gaza by Israeli forces, Mary Adams speaks with Yael Treidel from Hadera in Israel. Yael, an author, translator, social and political activist for many years, has been involved with Women Wage Peace since 2014. She currently works for a medical NGO responsible for driving hundreds of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza for medical treatment in Israel, on a daily basis. Working closely with Palestinian women, Yael, and others in WWP, have long pushed for a just political settlement between the two nations. Her novel, When the Water Rises, was published in 2022.

This is Not America – Why Black Lives in Britain Matter

13/08/2023
In this episode, Steve Brett talks with the author Tomiwa Owolade, about his book This is Not America – Why Black Lives in Britain Matter. Tom argues that racial identity is not an abstraction, but is contextual and based on different geographical and historical factors. He writes that many of the ideas we have about what it means to be black have been adopted from America, when in fact what it means to be black and British is different from what it means to be black and American.

At Work in the Ruins with Dougald Hine

12/07/2023
Steve Brett interviews Dougald Hine on his new book, At Work in the Ruins – Finding Our Place in the Time of Science, Climate Change, Pandemics & All the Other Emergencies. They discuss his remarkable journey from his focus on the Climate Crisis, to why he’s not talking about the Climate Crisis anymore. They go on to talk about the impact of the Dark Mountain Project, the work of Vanessa Machado de Oliveira, and how “the end of the world as we know it is not the end of the world full stop. The end of the world as we know it is also the end of a way of knowing the world.” For further references recommended by Dougald, please note, The Myth of Modernity by Michael Greer, and A Small Farm Future by Chris Smaje.

The Value of Eldership

25/06/2023
In this episode, Leadership developer and social entrepreneur Dave Pendle, is in conversation with Steve Brett about Eldership. They discuss the value of eldership, and if it is something that can be both restored and developed in modern culture. Find out more about Dave Pendle’s work here: https://www.generativeyou.co/

The Language of Embodied Intelligence

11/12/2022
In this episode Mary Adams explores the embodied intelligence of Contact Dance Improvisation with the leading dance teacher/performer Kirstie Simson. Described as a “force of nature” by the New York Times, Simson shares her experience and insights into the relevance of our relationship to the body, and how this can transform the deep cultural attitudes of separation and dissociation which underlie the global meta-crisis.

A Process of Learning and Unlearning: A Dialogue with Boaventura de Sousa Santos

25/09/2022
Boaventura de Sousa Santos is a distinguished legal scholar and Professor Emeritus of Sociology at the University of Coimbra in Portugal. He is one of the founders of the World Social Forum. He has written and published widely on issues of global justice and its relationship to the necessity for an ecology of knowledge systems. As well as being a brilliant scholar he has worked for social justice in social movements around the world, including amongst the favelas of Brazil and with indigenous and peasant communities in different parts of the world.

Once Upon Time in the East – with Xiaolu Guo

10/07/2022
An interview with the British/Chinese writer, diarist and filmmaker Xiaolu Guo. From her upbringing in a small fishing village on the East China Sea to becoming the celebrated writer and filmmaker she is living in Britain today, we explore the extraordinary life and work of an east/west cultural pioneer.

On the Verge of the Verb – with Gabriel Meyer Halevy

07/04/2022
Gabriel Meyer Halevy is a musician and storyteller from Argentina. His book, “On the Verge of the Verb” is shortly to be published in the US. Gabriel is a cross-cultural bridge builder—even across enemy lines—through music, humour and story. We met up with Gabriel at Brave Earth earlier this year, a community founded by Alnoor Ladha in the jungle of Costa Rica. In this podcast, Gabriel talks about his travels and meetings with extraordinary people, his celebration of the prophetic nature of his spiritual lineage, and his love of the human spirit.

The Climate Emergency and Transitioning to a Post-Anthropocentric World

09/03/2022
In this episode recorded at Alnoor Ladha’s home in the jungle of Costa Rica, Steve Brett talks with Alnoor about how we should be responding to the Climate Emergency and the possibility that we might be one of the last generations of human life on earth. For Alnoor, it’s not just about social and political action. We need to understand and dis-identify from the dominant culture. We need to make an ontological shift that is in deep relationality to the living planet, to heal our spiritual/material divide, and transition to a post-anthropocentric world.

“Africa is Key” Solutions to the Global Crisis with Esther Stanford-Xosei

07/02/2022
In this episode, Mary Adams speaks with Esther Stanford-Xosei about her work with inter-generational movements to repair the damage of colonial legacies and create a new holistic paradigm.

Freedom, Infinity, Utopia – talking art with Patrick Bryson

In this episode Steve Brett talks with Irish artist Patrick Bryson about art, meditation and freedom. The conversation follows Patrick’s own journey as an artist – a journey he says, that never ends.

Living on Purpose – Jamie Bristow and the Mindfulness Initiative

26/05/2021
In this episode Steve Brett talks with Jamie Bristow, the director of the Mindfulness Initiative, about the qualities that can be cultivated through mindfulness, to help us “live on purpose” toward social and societal change.
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